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Censoring Profanity

December 28th 2006 01:51
This post seems quite topical considering some of the issues being discussed within the Orble community as of late. Many television shows, particularly those of an improvised nature, are going to include some profanity. What I find intriguing is the decisions that networks make in choosing which words are inappropriate and should be bleeped.
Whose Line Is It Anyway? is strictly censored*


I first started pondering this issue after viewing a number of episodes of Whose Line Is It Anyway? (US), an improve comedy game show. What struck me as odd was which words were censored. Obviously, the occasional s- and f-words dropped were concealed, but so were much less offensive terms such as 'laid.' Granted, it does have a sexual connotation, but is it really distasteful enough to warrant suppression?

It then struck me that maybe this was a cultural issue. I believe that, in Australia, we are much more laid back when it comes to profanity. Take for example another improvised show, Thank God You’re Here. Its timeslot was actually earlier than the one in which Whose Line originally aired, yet the occasional bad language let loose by the contestants was very rarely censored. Then there is the case of Rove Live, in which American guests are frequently amazed that they are allowed to swear.

It seems that in the USA, even late-night cable television is not exempt from the bleep. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which airs on cable's Comedy Central, frequently features cursing, all of which is covered up. The version that is retransmitted on the Australian Comedy Channel retains the bleeping; however the global edition aired on the free-to-air SBS does not. While Australian subscription television does not have an equivalent of the Daily Show, local comedic programmes such as Stand Up Australia are completely uncensored.


As for the issue of censoring profanity, while I believe it is something that must be done to protect certain audiences, I don’t think we should go overboard. Australia does tend to be very relaxed about such things, and it really should stay that way. The level of profanity typically reflects the show - anyone easily offended is unlikely to be watching a programme such as Stand Up Australia anyway.

So, what are your thoughts? Is America’s censoring too rigid? Is Australia’s too relaxed? Where do we draw the line on what is profane?

*Screencap courtesy of Wikipedia, and used under Fair Dealing for identification and critical commentary
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Comment by KylieW

December 28th 2006 05:16
I don't quite get some of the censorship decisions. For instance, in the song Holiday by Green Day. There is a line in the song that goes "Seig Heil to the President's Yes Men". At certain times of the day 'Seig Heil' is bleeped out.

Huh????????

I can understand the F bomb and C bomb being bleeped out, but America's censorship rules are far far too rigid. I think Australia's are ok....but overall censorship pisses me off. I think people should take responsibility for their own viewing habits and not have them regulated by a faceless body comprised of people who probably aren't even reflective of the demographics of our society.

Comment by Lizard68591

December 28th 2006 05:53
Im not necessarily a fan of all the censorship but I think that you have mistaken the motives behind the FCC's actions. While to some extent the censorship may be a means of appeasing the easily offended I think it is more an issue of sheltering the nation's youth [because to be honest, America's parents have been falling a bit short in this area]

Comment by DuskDevi

December 28th 2006 08:08
Um...sorry Nina Pretty TV Babble-ina...

I'm in a lame frame of mind.
A bit drained....think tank leaked...
All I can think of is Nipplegate and how offensive this was...because this was far worse than seeing anything else like gang riots and poverty and murder and rape...

Sheesh.

Dusk

ps. Hope you're feeling better

pps. can I jump on Kylie's bandwagon? That girl is on fire! I second everything she said.


Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 09:10
KylieW: I hope you enjoyed your holiday! While censorship is needed in some contexts, there are some instances where it just goes too far. This is just one of many issues in which some people think that someone else needs to take the responsibility and make the decisions for them.

Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 09:18
Lizard68591: I did originally write that young audiences need to be considered and protected, but to my chagrin I must have edited it out. It's very true that children should be sheltered somewhat, but the question still remains - how far do we go? It's such a difficult issue because everyone has different standards and ideals.

Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 09:26
DuskDevi: After reading your latest post I can understand why you might be a bit drained. I voted but didn't comment - I wasn't a reader of Wordophillia, so I don't think it would really be fair of me to opine on a situation I'm not particularly familiar with.

I definitely understand where you're coming from re Nipplegate. It's all just so trivial when you compare it to the true horrors of the world...

And thank you, I am feeling better now, although I'm still a little croaky. I won't be as presumptuous as to speak for Kylie, but I suspect she wouldn't mind you jumping on her bandwagon. If there's room I may have to join you, since I always find myself agreeing with her!

Comment by postmoderncritic

December 28th 2006 11:16
Hey Nina, )

I would prefer it if Australian TV censored bad language a bit more as I always find it offensive, even when people don't intend it to be.

The Daily Show is a unique piece of American TV, isn't it?

Merry Holidays,
luv PMC
*<BoP~


Comment by AnthonyB

December 28th 2006 12:14
Personally, I'm not one for censorship. I think children's programs really need to be watched, though. You don't want a teletubby going on an angry in front of your toddlers. But I love ratings, and I believe they should remain as guidance. But that's all us adults need.

From experience, teenagers are impressionable and I saw many of my friends act like american gangstas, and they took drugs and went to parties and spoke like the guys from "american pie". They thought it was cool. Stupid.

Great, thoughtful piece, Nina. I LOVE IT, EXTREM !!

Comment by Sisi

December 28th 2006 13:22
Given that it's in an appropriate time slot, I don't think sexual connotation should be censored. It's when it's on during little kiddie shows that worries me...

Comment by Bhumika

December 28th 2006 18:34
daily show confuses me too.there is lot of cussing and swear words but the FCC doesn't say anything. i guess it is coz they are on a cable channel. if it had been on NBC or CBS then John Stewart would be in jail by now..

Comment by The Daily Sonnet

December 28th 2006 21:04
The Daily Show is censored somewhat - there's a lot of bleeping to keep the show at a TV-14 rating as opposed to TV-MA. The language would have to be toned down if it was on a major network like NBC, but it's on the network that gave us South Park and Chapelle's show so the standards are looser - but not as loose as HBO.

Comment by Trina

December 28th 2006 21:51
I really like your header! Very nice

Although am over the debate on censorship after doing a lot of catch up reading on Orble.

Comment by entertainmeorelse

December 28th 2006 22:41
Dear Babble, let me just enlighten you as to the way Americans think. Many years ago there was a 'Funniest Commercials' show hosted by Patrick Duffy.
2 of the commercials where for a gun shop. One features the owner firing off a sub machine gun for sale whilst wearing a Ronald Reagan mask. Patrick & the audience thought this was hilarious.
Later on was a commercial for condoms which featured an old man holding up a large condom. It had been pixellated out. I'm sure this was the Amercians who did this not the Australians.
If the Australians had censored this show they would have cut out the gratuitous guns & kept the condom. The phrase 'make love not war' becomes particularly ironic in the U.S.
You can buy a gun & invade a country with 'shock & awe' but you can't show a condom on TV. They can't even say the word 'toilet'!
Sick bastard!

Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 23:34
postmoderncritic: Thanks for giving another perspective on the issue. That's why it is so difficult - everyone is different in what they find offensive.

The Daily Show certainly is unique - I adore it! The Comedy Channel may also be picking up The Colbert Report in the new year, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 23:39
AnthonyB: Young people really do need to be taken into account when it comes to censorship. It's a bit sad that teens feel the need to emulate certain 'cultures.' Some of my friends in high school prided themselves on being outsiders that didn't follow the crowd - however, the way they went about it meant that they ended up emulating the stereotypical non-conformist anyway.


Comment by Nina

December 28th 2006 23:42
Sisi: You're definitely right about timeslots. Some responsibility should fall on parents to ensure that their children are watching appropriate shows at appropriate times.

Comment by Anonymous

December 28th 2006 23:45
I think that America is not strict enough on all the profanity, what does it add to any tv show.
If it needs constant cursing to make it more watchable it must not be that good anyway. And
if there are profanity in it it should be on at a later hour so kids want have to listen to it. If its
sex and profanity that a person wants to watch there is HBO, and other movie channels that they put that kind on. But Guys don't be to upset about censorship they have censored God also in America.

Comment by David my David

December 28th 2006 23:47
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Comment by Nina

December 29th 2006 00:04
Bhumika and The Daily Sonnet: Cable channels tend to be a lot more liberal in what they can show. If The Daily Show were an Australian made production that aired on our equivalent of Comedy Central, I have no doubt that it wouldn't be censored at all.It would probably be given an MA15 rating here (not suitable for audiences under 15 years)

Comment by Nina

December 29th 2006 00:05
Trina: Thanks! I can imagine that it would be a lot to try and read all at once.

Comment by Nina

December 29th 2006 00:11
entertainmeorelse: That certainly is an interesting example of the presence of double standards! Crazy...

Anonymous: It should definitely be about choice and what is appropriate to the show and its audience.

David my David: Lol! I suppose censoring yourself is one way to ensure others won't do it for you.

Comment by Francis

December 29th 2006 00:47
Yeah, the "Save the children!" excuse has become a cliche in the ongoing fight to justify censorship. If the parents really gave a gosh-darn about their rugrats they would get off their lazy gluteous maximii and actually do some parenting. tell the kids they can watch these shows, but aren't allowed to watch these.

To me the constant bleeps on The Daily Show is part of the humor, since we can always tell what word is being bleeped.

Comment by Nina

December 29th 2006 01:00
Francis: That's very true - sometimes the censorship can actually add to the humour. I think too there is often a sense of rebellion. Jon shouldn't be saying that! The network had to bleep him! He's so naughty!

Comment by Andrea

December 29th 2006 07:03
Hi Nina

I'm not a big fan of censorship and bleeping but I don't find excessive swearing etc adds anything to a show and can detract from it.

Some TV shows are designed to reflect life and in real life there is swearing.

I try to make sure my children are protected when it comes to the things that they watch and hear on TV but I'm finding more and more that my daughter is learning her bad language at school instead. Thankfully she understands that she shouldn't say those words and she doesn't (in front of me, anyway!)

Then again, even Play School got into trouble not long ago for telling a story where a child had a family with two mothers instead of the traditional mother and father.

It can be very difficult to draw the line but I think Australia has got it pretty right so far.

A.H.

Comment by Nina

December 29th 2006 07:20
Andrea: It seems that many people blame the media for their children picking up bad language, when in reality it is often heard at school. When you're a kid there's nothing more thrilling than getting the low down on bad words from your friends.
I agree with you that Australia has a pretty good attitude when it comes to censoring, because we don't go overboard.

Comment by Luke

December 29th 2006 12:47
Michael Jackson's song 'They Don't Really Care About Us' or whatever it's called had a line in it that went 'Jew me' but it got censored out too (much like Kylie W's example with Green Day's 'seig heil' line).

Comment by DuskDevi

December 30th 2006 00:43
Nina...my pretty TV Babble-ina...

Have a wonderful NYE...hope your throat is croaky on New Year's Day for all the right reasons!

Happy 2007 Nina.

Dusk

Comment by Nina

December 30th 2006 00:48
Luke: It's crazy to see just what will be censored out for fear of offending somebody. It wouldn't surprise me if the ubiquitous 'they' started banning whole songs because of single lines.

DuskDevi: I hope so too! Happy New Year to you (and to all Orblers)


Comment by signals

January 8th 2007 21:04
I don't watch The Daily Show, but I don't think it censors profanities. South Park that is on Comedy Central lets everything fly freely. Although the FCC came down on regular channels, they include regular TV channels you get on cable, most cable is still uncensored. No one would pay for premium channels if they bleeped 'bad' words.

Who's Line Is It Anyway hasn't been on regular TV in quite awhile and I never cared for it. These days, Drew Carey and his crew do live shows of the TV version on the road.

Comment by Nina

January 8th 2007 21:58
Signals: That's interesting - being in Australia I wasn't sure if the channel was censored, I was just going on the fact that the versions we get here are.

Comment by Akira

October 9th 2008 21:43
Here's the uncensored version of Michael Jackson's "They Don't Care About Us":

Really Long Link

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